Heavy Montreal is on the horizon and we at CJLO will be covering it for another year. In addition to doing a live broadcast from the grounds on Sunday, we thought we'd clue you in to what you chould check out while you're out there under the baking hot sun dressed all in black. So here's what some of our DJs have picked for what hey want to go see:
Philiam - Host of Turn on the Darkness - Tuesdays from 2 - 3PM
The Dillinger Escape Plan - If you're into that weird math/prog/psychadelic rock, well than this band is for you. I have sadly missed out all the time when they were here, I've heard they're quite amazing live and they put on quite a show. This time I will make up for the lost times I have not seen them.
Carcass - So. Many. Good. Things. Grindcore band Carcass has been something on my list for quite some time, Since I first heard their debut record. I was totally hooked on their sound, though it has been a while since I have listened to it, this should be something to look forward too seeing everyone in circle pits and walls of death, don't get injured kids!
Sabaton - Sabaton is a band I've listened too since grade 8, when I was first introduced to the art of war album I was amazed by the Melodic heavyness that Sabaton had, Unique writing style and talking about war and, well war things. I am still debating to catch their set or Attila';s set at the same time, though they will be returning in the fall with Trivium who sadly dropped. Will see when the time comes!
Attila - Attila is a band where they sadly have not been able to cross the boarder due to...... well their lead singer Fronz having a felony... Numerous times when they try to come to Canada they got denied, though hopefully this time around they filled out their paperwork and got things straight. The band caught my attention when they released the album About That Life, which seems to be a big joke, people were taking it too seriously and giving a bad rap because of how awful it is of an album,but seriously guys? Can you take a joke for what it is?
I, Prevail - I saw these guys open for... Amaranthe and they were surprisingly good. They will be the first band playing on Sunday, so if you want to get you're dj-ent- d-d- d-d- d-d-djent-d- d-d- jen-t- d-d- d-djent, 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 10 0 6 0 0 0, d-d- d-d- d-djent- on totally go see these guys to wake you up!
Animals as leaders - Since the first time I saw them in 2010 with Between the Buried and me I was about 16-17 years old discovering prog music for the first time, I was blown away from their performance, since then, I have followed the progression of Animals As Leaders and they've become such a powerhouse, and a lot of influence in other people's music, Tosin Abasi even invented that technique with his thumb which everyone tries to pull of.
Mantar - Mantar has always been an interesting group in my opinion, since Andrew (our Program Director) suggested me their album, I was instantly hooked to their sound and style, they combine sludge and thrash, which is a very unique concept.
Blind Guardian - Blind Guardian is a banda band I wanted to see since I listened to their album "At The Edge Of Time", Power Metal has always intrigued me with it's fantasy and mystical things like that since Lord Of The Rings, and I did not know that metal bands would use that type of material in their music, which is kind of cool.
Candlemass - It will be Candlemass's first time in Montreal, so I am looking forward to see how they sound going into their show and seeing them performed. Bare with me, I haven';t listened to any Candlemass so please don't be upset at me. My friends always recomeneded me Candlemass I never had time to get into them. Maybe this will be the time to do so.
Killswitch Engage - Killswitch Engage are the type of band that you see thoughout the years that evolved into a monsterus band with their sound and style, since they've reunited with their old singer Jesse Leach, they've been leaning towards more old style of writing than what they had going for with Howard Jones which was a melodic death metal feel.
Orin - DJ for The Noisy Loft Sundays from 8 - 9PM
Skeletonwitch - a band that really brings an energy to a trend that died about a few years ago. Being one of the few bands that seems to have a consistently good catalogue of albums out of the retro-thrash phase that popped up in 2010-12, they are not to be missed.
The Dillinger Escape Plan - I've loved them since first hearing the opening notes to Milk Lizard. Why would I ever miss that?
Carcass - I am in the minority who hopes they play anything off Swan Song, but be damned I'll cross my fingers for "Rock the Vote". Or "corporal jigsore quandary".
Attila - This band is bad, and there isn't much about them to say. I however really want to watch how bad they can be. I hear they are all about that life.
Suicide Silence - They have a song that pre-dates the Drake song that is actually titled "You only live once". Their singer passed away after that album. I am a bad person.
Mastodon - I look forward to seeing Troy Sanders ever-graying beard riff some sweet bass. He is the wizard of bass tone, and maybe this time the sound system will actually be able to pick him up.
Blind Guardian - I was a 13 year old nerd who would jam out to Mirror Mirror and Battlefield too often NOT to see this band.
Nightwish - I actually discovered this band when I was very young and sifting through anime music videos in the early days of youtube. I have no shame in admitting this, and even less shame in admitting I'll watch the hell out of any of their goofy edgy songs (eg. "I wish I had an angel") or their needlessly epic ones (eg "Wishmaster" or "Gethsemane").
Five Finger Death Punch - I need to know what true awful is like. I must know the depth of musical depravity. I need to stare into the void... and pray it does not stare back into my soul.
Memphis May Fire - I wonder how their singer plans to make a fool of himself this time around. Will it be with pandering to pit-bros, or slut-shaming. You never know with this terrible band. Either way, I'll go until I give up hope of them ever playing anything off Sleepwalking (their only good album).
Killswitch Engage - I seem to be in the minority of people who though their last album was a bland vanilla pile of blegh. But I still look forward to seeing them live for the first time since I was 17 at Warped Tour. Maybe they'll play their Holy Diver cover. I can only hope their singer doesn't go on another subtle "all lives matter" rant, or I'll make it my goal to find him and vomit on him.
Suffocation - I want to see Frank Mullen do his blast beat hand gesture in person. I also want to see him try and pronounce "Quebec".
Andrew - Host of Grade A Explosives - Sundays 4 - 6PM
Mantar - A two piece band from Germany who is putting out sludgely awesome stuff. Think Death From Above 1979 if they got super angry. This will be their first time in Montreal and you should not miss it.
USA out of Vietnam - Montreal's favorite post-rock band with a good sense of fuzz has two great albums you should definitely check out, and after you do, you'll understand.
Dillinger Escpae Plan - If you haven't managed to catch a live show from these guys, you will not be disappointed. Super high energy and sure to be a crowd favorite.
Carcass - A classic band who showed us with their hiatus breaking record Surgical Steel that they're still able to put out amazing work. As if I need to tell you to go check them out.
Finally, a very special mention goes to Grimposium which will be doing event on August 4th and 5th in the city. On the 4th they'll be doing all the intellectual stuff you crave with the academic symposium starting at the Faubourg (FG building) on Concordia's campus. This year's topic is the intersection of psychoanalysis, media studies, and tourism management in extreme metal and will be going from noon until 2:30PM. This is followed by a film screening and panels at the VA building on Concordia's campus starting at 7PM. The film is "DEATH by Metal", a biopic about influencial Florida death metal band Death.
Then on the 5th is a special show featuring Cardinal Wyrm, Vengeful, Vastum, who are doing their first Canadian show, and the mighty Misery Index at Katacombes. Tickets are 25 bucks and more info about the show can be found here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1614372642187115/
We'll see you at the fest.
Next weekend is Heavy Montreal, and we at CJLO want to give you the chance to win some tickets. "What do I have to do?" you ask. Well, simply listen to our metal shows Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday for your chance to win. Here's a breakdown for those that need to schedule this into their week:
As if that's not enough, we'll be doing some ticket giveaways during the week through our Facebook page, so keep checking back to see about that (hint: we'll probably be posting a Metal Monday article for you to enjoy as well).
Best of luck, and even if you don't win, you can listen to our live broadcast from the Heavy Montreal grounds on Sunday where we'll be talking to musicians and playing some great music for you to enjoy!
The special guests keep on coming and a winning streak is building! On Monday, August 1st at 2pm, Emilio Greco will be speaking with former MMA fighter, former number 1 contender and current UFC analyst, Dan “The Outlaw” Hardy this Monday August 1st! The Outlaw will be calling in all the way from London to discuss upcoming UFC events and much more. You cannot miss this new episode of In Between Rounds this Monday from 2pm-3pm!
In Between Rounds is CJLO's first talk show about fighting! Every week, Emilio breaks down fights with special guests. Tune in for weekly fight updates - Mondays at 2pm!
Tune into Anatomy of Caribbean Music tonight at 8PM for a special interview with Oliver Mitchell and to hear more about The Universal Negro Improvement Association & African Communities’ League's Emancipation Day!
Winner of an honourable mention at the 2016 Syli d’Or de la musique du monde, this songwriter, composer and performer, who since 2010 has strode upon Montréal stages with his group Melodi Muzik is setting out on his solo career with flair. Easily moving his acoustic guitar between folk, reggae and rock, Oliver Mitchell attaches Haitian traditions to these modern beats.
Oliver is a multidisciplinary artist born in Port au Prince, Haiti in 1986 . He is an author, composer, performer, writer and actor. Self-taught he was already on stage very young but at the age of 23 Oliver began playing acoustic guitar. He began his musical career with "Melodi Muzik" in 2010 with two longtime friends Ishmael Mevs and Jean-Bernard Liautaud. Reggae has been a huge influence for him who grew up with this sound in his district of Delmas, Haiti. Olivier has quickly mastered his instrument and put forward his nature and performing in Montreal's bar and festivals.
His Band made nearly fifty shows in bars and venus of Montreal, a dozen fundraising and humanitarian cause, Nuits d'Afrique Festival and Jazz Festival 2012 ( indoor shows ). He also participated in "Fade to black 2013" alongside Vox Sambou, a show organized in the month of black history by the Fabienne Colas Foundation and TD Bank. He also made the festival Haiti en Folie twice, in 2013 and 2014 and the alongside Wesli band and Haitian Super star Eddy Francois. Five years after his debut, Olivier looks to the future with optimism and passion. He loves the sound and music that speaks and moves. The release of his EP "Just Me" promises to be colorful and spicy.
Anatomy of Caribbean Music Examines the origins and evolution of Caribbean Music including calypso, reggae, kompa and their relationship to Africian and Latin American music - Saturdays from 8-10pm.
Festival season is in full swing, and just around the corner is the five-day psytrance and techno extravaganza known as Eclipse Festival. It takes place this year in Sainte-Thérèse-de-la-Gatineau, where all will be surrounded by beautiful scenery, but most of all, by beautiful music. I had the opportunity to talk to Montreal-based composer and new media artist Woulg last week about his music and his perception of the psychedelic scene. Initially I told him the interview was going to be twenty minutes long and we ended up talking for almost an entire hour. Here is the full interview, I hope that reading it is as much of a pleasure as it was to conduct it.
Thinkbox: This is CJLO 1690 AM and we have here with us in our studio a fellow Canadian, Montrealer, and technological wizard. Please welcome to the CJLO studios and to The Machine Stops – Woulg. Hi!
Woulg: Hi.
Thinkbox: How are you doing?
Woulg: Good, how are you?
Thinkbox: I'm doing good, thank you. So first of all, tell our audience a little bit about yourself.
Woulg: My name is Greg Debicki and I make music under the name Woulg. I'm really interested in glitch in my music but also in performance. And I've been making music under the name Woulg for 8 or 9 years now, and I moved to Montreal about three years ago. And since then I've played kind of all over Europe, in Colombia, Vancouver last year for the international symposium of electronic arts and I've taught lectures at NYU and Berkeley College of Music at their masters campus in Valencia. And I'm just playing some festivals this summer – kind of these more free..hippy festivals this summer, and I'm getting excited about that.
Thinkbox: Yeah, that's actually crazy impressive. And in addition to the universities you've taught at, I know that you also have a music studio yourself where you also do private lessons. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
Woulg: That's true, it was initially lessons in person and lessons via Skype, and now it kind of turned in to just lessons via Skype. And when I started I kind of thought it was going to be like a medium amount of fun, but it's really really exciting and really stimulating and inspiring. I've got students kind of from all over – from all ranges. I have some students that were Berkeley alumni, some students in Australia some students from China. The Chinese students use like a VPN to do these kinds of lessons, and it's crazy because everyone has a different perspective on music and honestly I feel like I found all these kind of... it's kind of been this really amazing way to of gathering these kind of kindred spirits, you know, other musicians that happen to have a very similar approach or similar ideas about making music as I do. I feel like I learn the same or maybe more from my students than they learn from me.
Thinkbox: Oh man, that's so crazy. Like, when I read about it I figured it was just maybe more people from here, from Canada. But to have students from all around the world that's such a crazy different perspective because there must be, I assume, some element to it that – where you see different inputs as coming in from each country.
Woulg: Yeah. It's weird though. You certainly have a little bit of the cultural side playing in to the way people think about and make music. But as far as making really weird glitch music, that part sort of takes a back burner, and what is more apparent in the way that they make music is their musical training. I have a couple of students that have more of a jazz training, or more of a classical training, and some students like who are not formally trained and so they come at it from a kind of like electronic music perspective of hacking things together. That plays a lot more of a part than I think the cultural aspect. Although there is sometimes those funny almost like language barriers.
Thinkbox: And in terms of people who are coming from the electronic music side of things uniquely, how do you think that people who are like that have affected music in general? Do you think its become a more open thing?
Woulg: Yeah. I think it's really interesting. I went to go see a talk by Brian Eno when he was in Calgary a long time ago. One of the things – I think this is from that talk, I don't know, my memory's not that great - one of the things I think was in that talk was he was talking about how making electronic music allows you to come at making music with more of a sort of graphical approach. It's like a visual approach to making music. It informs your musical decisions in a way, and I suppose that composers have had that forever with writing down their scores on paper. You see it sometimes with some students that they're really really in to colour-coordinating their Ableton tracks. And they have like really nice gradients of like, "this track is this," and they're super tight about naming all the tracks nicely and everything and that plays a part in how they organize their music and how their music comes out and how they sound. And I think that really, yeah, it has a huge effect on how music is made and how it sounds.
Thinkbox: Definitely. I know a lot of people who are producers who when they learn how to produce music, they kind of just go at it when they have let's say FL Studio or Ableton or what have you and they just kind of mess around with it until they find their style and until something works. What do you think are the pros and cons of that approach?
Woulg: That's a really good question. I've actually been thinking about that so much lately. It's funny that you ask that. Okay, so the other approach, to lay it out I guess, to define the terms, I feel like the other approach is seeking out YouTube lessons or tutorials or whatever, or coming for lessons from somebody else or an academic kind of approach to it. And then versus kind of just hacking at the software and seeing what comes out. There's definitely, I definitely learned more from just picking up the software and hacking at it and just trying to find different ways of doing stuff. There's definitely a lot of interesting things that come out of that. And I think part of that is that you find ways of using the software that maybe weren't the intended uses. My favourite example of this is my friend Alex. She makes music under the name of Lost Creatures. She's brilliant, like a really really brilliant musician. And I remember when she just started using Ableton... she was making this really really tight minimal techno – like really clean minimal techno – but she was making it like she didn't know about the grid. Like she didn't understand about how the grid worked and everything. So she was making like 128 bpm super-tight minimal techno. Super quantized sounding. Completely off the grid when the grid was set to like, 140 or something! But it sounded so cool. She would come to me for advice sometimes, and I would always say to her, "Don't take my advice like, whatever you're doing is working and it's working so well." And you can see now she's kind of blowing up in the city, and she just went to Calgary to play at Sled Island. And that's sort of the magic of just figuring out your own way. Part of the cons of that, is that you're in a way more prone to sort of imposter syndrome, and there are some things for example that are really easy, but it takes a long time to figure out. Like, I don't know if I have any examples offhand of this; there's often that sense of, "I want to learn how to do this thing" and then you hack at it, hack at it, hack at it, and you cant figure it out, and then you look out a YouTube tutorial and it takes you five minutes to actually learn how to do it. Yeah, there's pros and cons.
Thinkbox: And a little bit about your projects. The one I've hearing the most about online is definitely Ring Buffer, which I understand was toured pretty extensively here and a little bit in Europe. Can you tell me a little bit about that and how it worked, because when I read about it, it just totally blew my mind, because I didn't understand any of what I was reading, I was like, "That's amazing, but – what?" And I watched a video and it made a little bit more sense, but at the same time, I was still like, "Okay, I need elaboration on this" because this is just so crazy and so much bigger than I can imagine.
Woulg: I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you. The basic idea was to play a little bit with data bending and to sort of do a full circle of data bending. I don't know if you've ever done that thing where you use Google Translate to translate from one language (to another). So say you'd go English to French, French to Spanish, Spanish to Polish and Polish to English and you see it like a game of telephone.
Thinkbox: And it come out something totally different?
Woulg: Yeah! So that was maybe one of the inspirations of the project, but not really the main focus of it. So what I did is I started with... I was messing around with some 3D modelling software. I was using Maya, and I started just writing python scripts for procedurally messing with generating weird shapes. I wasn't really trying; I'm not a good 3D modeller, I don't do 3D stuff. I like messing around with it, but I'm in no way good at it. Part of the fun of it was just sort of hacking at it like we were talking about before and just trying to make some weird shapes. And then what I would do is I would pick different angles to look at the shapes from and then just take screenshots or render images of like... different angles of then shape. And then I would pass those through a program to data-bend them in to sound. I was using photo sounder, which is an open source option, I think... Oh, actually I don't remember. And then I was also using harmer in FL Studio. It's an additive synth and you can just drop images in to where you would usually put a sample, and it just turns that in to sound, and then you have a little more control over it. So I was doing that and then playing with trying to add different audio effects to the sound to give it different shapes and textures visually. Because what I would do then is I would play that back through a spectrograph, so what a spectrograph shows is the time in the x-axis, frequency is in the other axis, and you have another aspect of power or volume being sort of in the z-axis
Thinkbox: Sort of in the middle part?
Woulg: Kind of with the brightness...
Thinkbox: Yeah!
Woulg: Yeah, so that's how you're able to re-create these images back out of the sound. So when they turn in to sound and you read the spectrograph, you can see the images back in the spectrograph.
Thinkbox: This is like blowing my mind right now.
Woulg: So that was kind of the idea, to make like the full circle. Certainly the whole show wasn't made entirely out of sounds that I made that way. Because once you start messing around with those sounds you realize that they're actually pretty annoying. But they are really interesting. Like, I'm sure you've heard the famous example: Aphex Twin did a thing like that a long time ago where he put an image of himself or him and his cat, or something in one of his songs or something.
Thinkbox: Oh yeah!
Woulg: I don't remember what it was, but same process. Of turning the image into sound and the image is visible in the sound you can read in the spectrograph. So that's what I would as part of the live show. Part of the visuals was just showing the spectrograph just kind of scrolling downwards. There were other parts to the show as well. Basically, the show was about data bending in general and the visuals were sort of showing the sound in a really strange 1-1 relationship. Like, they were just audio-reactive visuals in a way that was supposed to just show one aspect of the sound. More just like lights and less visuals. Less like a video or a T.V. that were looking at and just like some flashing lights.
Thinkbox: Yeah. Wow, that's so crazy. As someone who's worked with spectrographs before because I'm studying linguistics and we have to do it. I have so many ideas right now that I'm just kind of blown away.
Woulg: I just got this, and I'm in no way involved with Isotope at all, but I just got their RX Suite and it can do some of the coolest shit I have seen in a long time. And like just screwing with audio, it has a d-reverb so it can analyze what the reverb is in the space and try to take it away. And it can do really weird things like spectral repair. So if you had a recording of us in this room and something fell off a chair or something, you can go in to the recording and try to pull that aspect out. I'M LIKE OBSESSED with this right now. Just trying to mess with stuff like that, and sometimes it leaves like... ghosts of the sound. Like when you pull out. Say you drop something at the same time as someone is talking then you pull out the sound of the thing dropping. It's so hard to actually do that in a really precise way. I think the software is really good at what it does, but if you do it wrong, if you use it wrong, which is what I'm all about, just using stuff wrong. It leaves these really interesting little traces, these weird like.... sound gremlins.
Thinkbox: There's so much you could do with that. It's so exciting. Back to a little bit about your releases. I know that you've released on a bunch of different labels including Enig'matik records, and they are now defunct. Do you know what happened there?
Woulg: I do, kind of. So Jake Rose was running that label and I think? I mean, I don't want to speak for him because obviously there was probably a lot of different reasons, but my feeling towards it was sort of like, that dude worked so hard to make that label what it was and he really put in everything that he had. He was tireless and he worked so hard at bringing new artists to the light and trying to get any sort of traction anywhere that he could. He built up the artists on that label in a really incredible way and he really supported us and did a lot of amazing stuff. And I think part of what happened was that he wasn't seeing the kind of returns that he was looking for maybe, and then eventually he bought a house somewhere that was further in the wilderness of Australia and he was just like, "I can't even get reliable internet out here so fuck it," or something like that. I don't know exactly what happened but he was just kind of like, " I'm done with this."
Thinkbox: So he just kind of retreated in to the woods a little bit?
Woulg: A little bit, I think. I don't know. I've talked to a couple of other people from the label over the years, and I think nobody really knows exactly what happened. But yeah, that dude did a really good job for a really long time. He's a really amazing guy.
Thinkbox: Yeah, I definitely mourn the loss of that. I'm sad. That label was really something. Speaking of labels, actually where I found your music was Ektoplazm.
Woulg: Oh, really?
Thinkbox: Yeah, I was desperately searching for Canadian content because CRTC Canadian content requirements, and I was just looking for anything and then I found the regional kind of part of the website and I just download, download, download, download. But your music isn't really the typical psychedelic fare that a lot of people are used to seeing, so personally – do you consider yourself to be a psychedelic music producer?
Woulg: You know, I've been thinking about that a fair bit lately, too. Because, as you know, I just played at Fractalfest, and I guess they did this sort of experiment this year of putting me in sort of a headlining spot, which was surprising to me as well because I'm not super keyed in to that scene. Mind you, I'm not super keyed in to any electronic music scene because most of what I listen to is sad folk music and like talk radio stuff. I mean, I don't know a whole lot about the psychedelic electronic music scene, but it seems to be where a fair bit of my fans come from and I was really blown away at Fractalfest at how open the audience was, because I'm really used to playing these gigs where... I mean... I think I'm a little bit jaded from playing so many gigs in Calgary. I used to play this monthly show at this bar called Quincy's, and we would play and it was the three of us who were the three breakcore guys in Calgary. We had this monthly show and nobody really came except for our friends sometimes and then sometimes even our friends would get scared away. And I'm sort of used to that reception and like playing a lot of shows. I think one of the best receptions, well okay, not counting a couple of other ones. Like not counting Soundasaurus, for example. But the best reception I think that I got in Alberta was maybe this show that I played in Edmonton at this place called the Rudehouse.
Thinkbox: That's an interesting name...
Woulg: Yeah! It was kind of like this basement of this weird house and they threw a lot of cool shows there. Anyway, they got me to come up and I played my first couple of songs without looking up because I was really nervous that they weren't going to be into it because the guy before me was playing really smooth funky house. Well, maybe not exactly that, but something like that. And so I was really nervous and then I started playing, and I didn't look up and then I looked up and the whole front row was staring at me with their mouths open and there was a silent moment in the music, and this one person whispered – and I could hear them because it happened to be the quiet part – he whispered, "How is he doing that?" and I was kind of like, "Oh! Okay so I guess it's going okay." I was kind of hoping they would dance, but they just stood there the whole time and they loved it, I guess. So, I don't know. It was weird, but that's kind of what I'm used to. That, and or people coming up. I played this one show where somebody tried to steal my jacket. I played another show where somebody like came up and was like, "Is this your fucking track?" I was like, "Yeah." He's like, "Sounds like a train wreck. This sucks. I'm out of here," and I was like "Why did you tell me that?" So that's kind of what I'm used to, and playing at Fractalfest they were just like, "Give us the weird stuff – give us the weirdest thing you got." I'm like, "a-a-are you sure? I'm scared." So I'm slowly getting used to more receptive audiences and the fact that my music has come along a fair bit; my live sets as well. So, I'm kind of excited about that. I don't know if you saw that video that Varatharajan put out. He made this little video about me and my music. I think my main idea for a really long time has been like, what I'd really like to do is to start people off where they're sort of comfortable and then take them along through this journey that ends with them dancing to stuff that they didn't think they would want to or be able to dance to beforehand. One of the examples that I always think of as kind of a key example of this is: Did you ever listen to The Wall by Pink Floyd?
Thinkbox: Yes.
Woulg: So you know it starts with this 'brangy-brangy' guitar music that anybody is like, "Oh yeah, okay."
Thinkbox: Yeah, it's really accessible, not mediocre, but in the middle. Kind of, everyone can do it.
Woulg: Exactly, yeah. And at the end it gets to The Trial, which is probably the weirdest track I have ever heard in my life. This weird clown-theatre music that like... yeah. So, I love that. I love that that whole journey takes place. And when you start with the little guitar music you're like, "Oh, okay," and then when you get to The Trial you're like, "I understand why I'm here," and you're totally there with them. So that's what I'd like to do with my live shows. I think that that's kind of my goal. To have it start with like an umm-tss umm-tss sort of thing, and then take people all the way to where they're dancing to stuff where they're like, "I don't even know where the beat is. What are we doing?"
Thinkbox: But it works anyways. Somehow my body is doing stuff and that's fine.
Woulg: Yeah, exactly. That's always been kind of my goal. I don't know why I got there. Oh right, psychedelic music. Yeah, so I feel like people who are into psychedelic music – It is another angle that makes sense with coming to where I've come from. It's not exactly where I come from, but I feel like my introduction into electronic music was really weird anyways. So I think it's nice to have some people from that psychedelic crowd, and some people who are a little more high art or whatever, and then some people who are more in to, like, the low art side of Electronic Music. There's so many elements of all of those things that I really like, and the idea really is to put them all together.
Thinkbox: Yeah, I remember I was going through Ektoplazm and I saw this one comment on the album that you have up there, and it was another producer and they were saying that "Oh, I used to HATE this EP, but now I've listened to it and come around." So it's not only growing as a producer or somebody who makes music, but people also growing to appreciate music in that sense.
Woulg: Yeah, it could be.
Thinkbox: And speaking of psychedelic music... While we're still on the topic, how was it working with Encanti for Empathy Switch?
Woulg: I love that guy. So Encanti is like... It's kind of a crazy story. So I was following him on MySpace a long time ago. And he had this one track that was... I can't remember what it was called, "My Heart Explodes in Darkness" or something like that. Some crazy name. Which was this amazing, like such a brilliant track. That started with this kind of psy-psytrance kind of groove and then just descended into the darkest, weirdest gabber track. And it's an amazing song, and that whole album is really, really interesting. So, I was a really big fan of that. And it was funny actually, I found that track right when my parents first bought these clutch home stereo speakers. My dad bought them on this crazy sale and then he was like, "Oh actually, I don't like these" and I was like "I fuckin' like them. I'll take them!" I can't remember how old I was. Anyways, I was following Encanti for a really long time and I really liked his music and then after MySpace sort of faded away and then SoundCloud became a thing and then lots of stuff happened and I kind of forgot about that. And then he added me on SoundCloud and he was like "Yeah, I'm a really big fan of your stuff," and I was like "Woah!"
Thinkbox: That's full circle right there.
Woulg: Yeah, and then we just ended up chatting. He's the one that brought me over because he teaches at Berkeley in Valencia. I believe that he was teaching at Berkeley in Boston before that I think. Yeah, the dude's just a super super brain. Like, he's so smart and his sound is so crazy. It's a real pleasure working with him. He's a really good guy.
Thinkbox: Yeah, just from listening to his music, it's crazy, crazy stuff. The first time I heard his music just blew my mind. Really mind blowing, absolutely. I wanted to ask you about this quote I heard once, because I was reading about your stuff and I found that this might be interesting to you. I don't remember who said this, but I heard that this quote that said, "Talking about music is like dancing about architecture," and the person was referring to the fact that it was impossible and kind of useless. Which had me personally offended, because what I do is I sit in a room too early in the morning every week and talk about music. And so, for someone like you who uses movement and the creation of space of key elements of your performances, how do you feel about that?
Woulg: I love that quote, actually. But I feel like it refers to something really specific. I feel like talking about music is... Okay, let me say this. I feel like listening to music is it's own art form – It's its own thing and creative process. I went to this talk with Tim Hecker awhile ago and he said this great thing where he... I don't know if I remember this exactly – again, not the greatest memory, but here we go. So Tim Hecker was saying this thing that, first he makes a bunch of music and then he takes a little break from it, and the he goes back and listens to everything. This is like stage two where he listens, curates, and names all the tracks and that really makes a lot of sense to me. When you observe or are the audience of art. When you're listening to music or going to a gallery or whatever, you have your own sort of creative things that you impose on to the work. And yeah, that's its own thing that needs to be valued. When you go and you look – okay, let's talk about music still. When you listen to an album for example, there's different things that you think are happening and they're not necessarily what is actually happening technically or what is actually happening lyrically, for example. I had this crappy MP3 player for awhile and I could never get the order of the songs to be in the right order. But what it made happen was that I would listen to these albums over and over again and I would hear a narrative happening in the lyrics that felt to me like the intended narrative.
Thinkbox: But it was never in the right order.
Woulg: No, it was never in the right order. And so really when you – or if I went to go look it up I would find that the story of the album or the idea of the album was completely different from what I had come up with. And even without taking it to that extreme, everybody has their own sort of experience of what a different piece of music gives them, or the way that they understand it. And I think that that's really, really valid and really important. And so I think in a way that talking about music is like dancing about architecture. But if you're gonna be dancing about architecture, that's pretty cool, and so people should do that. We need that still. We totally need people to talk about music and we need people to dance about architecture. Like, where are all the architecture dancers? Come on!
Thinkbox: And lastly, what kind of set can we expect at Eclipse?
Woulg: I don't wanna give away too much. I think it's gonna be, uhhh... It's going to be weird. That's what you should expect; that it will be weird and glitchy. Yeah, it's gonna be weird and glitchy. That's what you can expect.
Thinkbox: Well, thank you so much for coming in and talking to me!
--Woulg plays the Lunar stage this weekend at Eclipse Festival 2016: Circle of Light. The festival runs from July 28th to August 1st in Gatineau, Quebec.
On Tuesday, April 26th, The Commonwealth Conundrum held special broadcast live from Montreal's Just For Laughs Festival! Rebecca Munroe from The Commonwealth Conundrum (Tuesdays at 6pm) hosted the show with Patricia Petit Liang from Fatal Attraction (Mondays at 11am)! Together, they conducted amazing surprise interviews with some of JFL's most charming performers! #JFLMTL
Rebecca and Patricia had the pleasure of interviewing the host of AOL's Original Series, 2 Point Lead, co-host of MSG’s sports fan show, The Bracket and the host of ABC’s Fusion Live on the Fusion Network: Yannis Pappas!
Their next interview was with the hilarious and lovely Jessica Kirson, who was awarded "Best Female Comic" by the MAC association and the Nightlife Award for "Best Stand Up Comedian"!
During the second half of the show, Rebecca interviewed the Pitbull of comedy: Bobby Slayton!! He has been entertaining audiences with his intense-style for over 20 years!
Finally, the legendary George Wallace joined them on the show! George Wallace regularly performs in comedy clubs across the country and is an ambassador for the United States government, performing at military bases all over the world and was awarded a Lifetime Achievement Award at the 2013 Soul Train/Centric Comedy All-Star Awards.
Give your Tuesday evenings a kick in the Commonwealths with Canadian Crackers, British Bangers, Aussie Rockers and Kiwi Karnage. The Commonwealth Conundrum is the place to hear indie, rock, alternative, punk, post-punk, industrial, and whatever awesome music is coming out of the Commonwealth countries. Every Tuesday from 6-7pm!
Fatal Attraction is bizarre, comedy talk show hosted by Patricia Petit Liang. Tune in every Monday from 11-12pm to hear Patricia play weird YouTube videos, give really bad advice and interview a variety of super cool guests!
TUNE IN TOMORROW - for a live broadcast from 3-5pm from Rock Camp for Girls Montreal 2016 Showcase // Spectacle du Camp de Rock pour les filles 2016! At 3pm, tune into Yonic Youth, to hear Christina interview local artists that are teaching at Rock Camp for Girls Montreal such as Sivani, and Jane from Moss Lime as well as the bands that campers are forming! This will continue at 4pm, as we talk to more rock campers to hear about all the amazing things they are learning at rock camp this year! In the meantime, check out Julie from Beyond the Black Rainbow's blog post for the workshop she is teaching at camp on grrrls rock herstory: http://girlsrockmontreal.com/
Yonic Youth is an ephemeral platform used to celebrate the artistic genius of women in music. Tune in to hear punk, rock, rap, hip-hop, underground, above-ground, outer space, wailing, wheelin', aching, screaming etc. etc. etc. - Fridays at 3pm!
Tune into The Groove Master's Hour this Friday at 5pm and Anatomy of Carribbean Music on Saturday at 8PM at as Gee Weekes discusses The Universal Negro Improvement Association & African Communities' League's Emancipation Day!
The Universal Negro Improvement Association & African Communities' League is "a social, friendly, humanitarian, charitable, educational, institutional, constructive, spiritually governing ruling body, and is founded by persons, desiring to the utmost, to work for the general uplift of the Negro peoples of the world." The Montreal division of the U.N.I.A. contributed greatly to its development worldwide and is a source of strength to Black Montrealers by engaging in activities including: education and training, nutrition and healthcare, housing, arts and humanities, agronomy and applied sciences, building and trades, manufacturing and economic development.
People of African descent and their friends are cordially invited to celebrate Emancipation Day at the U.N.I.A. Hall located at 2741 Notre-Dame Street West (near metro Lionel-Groulx) on Monday, August 1st at 7pm. This event will feature guest speaker Dr. Nigel Thomas, an extremely talented writer and retired professor. There will also be music by Julian McIntosh, as well as African drumming and dancing. If you are of African descent, please come dressed in your African attire! All donations will go towards U.N.I.A. Scholarships Fund. For more info contact Mervyn Weekes 514-487-2790 or 514-846-0049.
Now at its eleventh edition, it's safe to safe that Osheaga has truly become a flagship event in the North American festival circuit. With 40,000 music lovers in attendance each day, the Osheaga Music and Arts Festival has become as much an ideal venue for well-established outfits to stage a comeback as it is for emerging Montreal talent to represent their city on a global scene.
During this year's edition, there will be 113 artists performing on the festival's six stages over three days of non-stop music. Indeed, with so many acts performing in so little time, it certainly can seem a bit overwhelming deciding how to make the most of the festival. Luckily, CJLO's got your back! We've prepared a list of some of the shows we're most excited for. From world-renowned Montreal talent like Kaytranada, to a campus-bred nine-piece jazz outfit, here's a look at Osheaga that goes beyond the headliners!
HAUTE - 1:00-1:45 @ Piknic Électronik Stage
Composed of two recent McGill grads, vocalist Anna Majidson and producer Romain Hainaut, HAUTE is an up-and-coming R&B-pop duo with a unique sound that merges refined pop undertones with notes of smooth R&B, hard-hitting trap, and forward-thinking electro. With two EPs under their belt, they've quickly amassed a following in cities like Montreal, Paris and New York; so you can be sure their debut at Osheaga will be a show not to miss! Coincidentally, they've also been guests on CJLO's own Aloof Future, where they expounded on their eclectic musical influences and the trickiness in balancing pop and a penchant for the experimental.
GoldLink - 3:25-4:10 @ Sonnet Green Stage
Hailing from the DMV, GoldLink has certainly succeeded in making a name himself in the Future Beats scene ever since he released his first mixtape, The God Complex. In the two years since that release, he has established his signature rapid-fire flow, and his ability to pick the best producers to collaborate with. His debut album, And After That, We Didn't Talk, is one that I have been blasting consistently since it came out last October, and has me looking forward to a high energy show with non-stop dancing.
SOPHIE - 4:00-5:00 @ Piknic Électronik Stage
Despite being one of the main figures behind the über-trendy "PC Music" genre, SOPHIE was initially somewhat of a mystery when he first came into prominence in 2013. Now, with one full-length release under his name, SOPHIE - a.k.a. Samuel Long - has cemented his status as one of the most exciting electronic producers out there. He somehow managed to push PC Music - a genre replete with high-pitched vocals intended to create an excruciatingly sweet version of pop music - from a simple Internet fad to a viable platform for collaborating with artists like Le1f, Charli XCX, and even Madonna.
Busty and the Bass - SiriusXM Tree Stage @ 7:15-8:00
Composed of nine different band members, all hailing from McGill, Busty and the Bass truly is the classic success story of a campus band that managed to make it big because of sheer talent. After having amassed quite a sizeable following on campus, Busty and the Bass formally established themselves as a true force to be reckoned with when they took home the national Rock Your Campus competition back in 2014. It's no surprise they received the most votes considering just how infectious and crowd-pleasing their exuberant spin on jazz is. You can expect them to bring the most harmonious horns, vibrant vocals, booming bass, and the life of the party!
Kaytranada - Piknic Électronik Stage @ 7:50-9:20
If there's anyone in the city who has succeeded on refocusing the global spotlight back on Montreal's electronic music community, it certainly is Kaytranada. If there's an artist that has developed an instantly-recognizable signature sound in the past few years, it definitely is Kaytranada. If there's any musician I'm most excited to see for what is most likely the 10th time, it is only Kaytranada. With a knack for sampling long-forgotten classics and creating the most unique basslines, he has rapidly established himself as a timeless artist capable of producing instant classics. In so little time, Kaytranada has come to represent the SoundCloud success story of a producer uploading his music for free online, and seeing his life completely changed. Indeed, he serves as a testament to how a massive following can be built purely off someone's sheer creative genius.
Jazz Cartier - Valley Scene @ 9:00-9:50
Yet another Canadian artist that has been making a name for himself on the international stage is Toronto's own Jazz Cartier. Following the release of his two first mixtapes, Marauding in Paradise and Hotel Paranoia, he's been able to establish himself as one of those few rappers redefining Toronto's sound in a manner that pushes the envelope beyond Drake. With stellar production and a penchant for creative storytelling as two consistent elements throughout all of his material, Jazz Cartier has been someone to watch.
Skepta - Sonnet Green Stage @ 4:55-5:40
With grime having made its grand American debut - but really, resurgence - in the past couple of years, no one can deny that the rapper Skepta has been at the forefront of this wave of high-energy and strictly underground English rap. Armed with collaborations featuring a string of influential rappers like Drake, Ace Hood, and many a member from the A$AP Mob, Skepta has become the unofficial face of this 140 BPM genre's takeover of the North American club scene. If you're looking for something hard-hitting that isn't Future's Southern-inspired trap, Skepta is your man. Expect one hell of a show.
Little Simz - SiriusXM Tree Stage @ 5:40-6:25
Beyond her status as a woman in hip hop, Little Simz has managed to define herself by her lyrical expertise, consistency in stellar output, and her wisdom beyond her 22 years of age. Already with a slew of releases under her belt (four mixtapes, six EPs, and one album), Little Simz is quite the prolific artist. However, that is unsurprising for a rapper that is so dedicated to charting her own unique path in the industry - one that's already been recognized by heavyweights like Kendrick Lamar. Her ability to adapt her flow to the most diverse range of beats while crafting intricate lyrical narratives is but one of the many qualities that make her talent so undeniable, and her presence so needed.
Evian Christ - Piknic Électronik Stage @ 8:30-9:30
Evian Christ first burst onto the scene in 2012 in the most low-key way: he anonymously uploaded the eight tracks forming his first release, Kings and Them, on YouTube for his and his friend's listening pleasure. Fast-forward four years and much critical acclaim later and you can now find him in the studio with Kanye West, as a member of West's creative company DONDA. From his production credits on "I'm In It", it's clear that Evian Christ's style of music is an eclectic mix of dark atmospherics, deconstructed references and samples, and throbbing industrial bass. That is experimentalism at its best, if you ask me.
--Chubby hosts Aloof Future every Sunday at 2PM. Music for curing hangovers, cleaning your apartment, studying and/or anything else you could possibly be doing on a lazy Sunday afternoon.
BVST continues its series of throwback episodes featuring clips from the past 15 years of the show tonight! Episode two in the series has more vintage clips, including an excerpt of Angelica's 2010 interview with Johnny Knoxville and a recap of the 2014 Maylene & The Sons of Disaster show with Andrew of Grade A Explosives. Tune it at 7pm ET tonight and take a trip back in time!
BVST is dedicated to rock'n'roll in all its forms. Tune in for the best (and the worst) in rock'n'roll, country, punk and metal, from right here and around the world. Hosted by Angelica, BVST is the longest continually running show on CJLO, and a staple of the CJLO lineup since January of 2001 - Tune in every Wednesday at 7pm!